Flint

tol'ko davayte bez vzaimnikh naezdov...Prosto associacii

Lyalechka-- vi ne chlen juri...no vashe predvzyatoe mnenie budet rassmotreno v lyubom sluchae specialnoy komissiey pod moim rukovodstvom (i skoree vsego budet otvergnuto)

Lyalechka-- please, tolko svejie produkti

Itak eshe ostalos neskolko seryoznikh nominaciy...Sred nikh- rediska ananas kokos banan malina

Anabel - morkovka

Virtualnoe obshenie sozdaet prekrasnuyu pochvu dlya associaciy kak i voobshe dlya fantaziy lubogo roda. Vot mne prishlo v golovu oxarakterizovat' nekotorikh uzerov kak kakoi nibud frukt ili ovosh'. Vi mojete prodoljit'. Mishenok - suxosliv Bryunetka - Krasniy perec,ostriy Che -arbuz Ziyadli - baklajan (ili badimjan) Morphine - ogurec Lurdes- limon Elvira - pomidor Lana- apelsin Nikoletta - vinograd

Nu ne stanovitsya je nam vsem infantilami

Lane i drugim , slova mudrogo politika i cheloveka - Winston Churchill : Democracy is the least bad of all of the systems of government produced out of human experience. Zamet'te- LEAST BAD, Lana. Churchill ,kak i ti ,kak i Che, schitaet demokratiyu ploxoy sistemoy. No kak i ti- on ne znaet sistemu kotoraya bila bi luchshe. S uvajeniem, FLint

Lana... Ochen razvernutiy otvet sostoyashiy na 99% iz otricaniya. A xotelos bi pobol'she pro "avtoritarnost' i vertikal'nost' vlasti". A to pri etix slovax odin tolko dedushka Stalin na um i prixodit.

Ya bi xotel zadat' vopros uvajaemoi Lane, Lana, a v kakuyu formu gosudarstvennogo ustroystva verish ti esli ne v demokratiyu? V partokratiyu? V anarxiyu? A mojet monarxiyu? Ved' otricat' sovsem ne slojno. A ludyam nado jit' v real'nom mire, s real'noy oporoy, vospitivat' svoix detey...

Ya bi xotel zadat' vopros uvajaemoi Lane, Lana, a v kakuyu formu gosudarstvennogo ustroystva verish ti esli ne v demokratiyu? V partokratiyu? V anarxiyu? A mojet monarxiyu? Ved' otricat' sovsem ne slojno. A ludyam nado jit' v real'nom mire, s real'noy oporoy, vospitivat' svoix detey...

Davide, Poka est' takie optimisti kak ti - u etoy strani net budush'ego! )

Vpolne

Ne xodi syuda ,daragoy...tuda xodi...sneg bashka popadet,pyaniy admin bol'no sdelaet

Mishenok- Teoriya Mal'tusa uje davno bila razvenchana. Mi s toboy uje kstati sporili na etu temu. Lubish ti etogo Mal'tusa ) A vot na moi pryamoi vopros ti ne otvetila- podderjivaesh ili net?

Hakob- eto ti prinimay terror protiv grajdanskix za voinu. Tebya samogo ya uje prinimayu za krovojadnogo armyashku.

Да э да, Че... Мир несправедлив. Только не надо делать его ещё более несправедливым, защищая Саддамов и Бен Ладенов.

Kstati, "podderjivayushiy" poyavilsya tol'ko seychas. Vmeste s userom po imeni "hakob" )

Nu mest', Lyalechka, eto ved' toje metod bor'bi.

Флинт, если позволишь я за неё отвечу. Видишь-ли, когда у человек каждый день видит, что его права как “человека” нарушаются он огорчается. А когда он видит, что его родных и близких убивают безнаказанно, да и его самого убить могут, то думает о зашите. А когда это все делает сила, которому противопоставлять ему нет ничего , то он решается на отчаянный поступок. Недодумавшихся делать именно этот поступок наводят “эти богатые дяденьки” на эти идей и оснашают всем нужным. И в этом не “террорист” виноват, а те, кто его до этого довели- тоест та самая сила, которая безнаказанно делает все и тот самы “дяденька, у которогo есть интересы” Зиядлы, Оправдать при желании можно любого. Тот же Чокотилло был всего лишь жертвой обстоятельств, просто больным человеком. И если захочешь, даже у него можно найти оправдательные мотивы- скажем некоторый внутренний и разрушительный позыв к убийству, причинявший ему боль. Если начать глубоко копатся в мотивах- ни к чему дельному не придем. Для себя лично я уже давно определил некоторые критерии, которые позволяют мне формулировать свою позицию по такого рода сложным проблемам. Я гуманист. В том смысле , что человеческая жизнь для меня есть ценность номер один. В том смысле что для меня убийство невинного человека это-наитягчайший грех для любого человеческого существа. Человек прежде всего. Не идеи и не понятия. Когда террорист (глупый, несчастный, обездоленный) идет на убийство - он совершает тяжкий грех по отношению ко всем людям. Мотивы? Причины? Все это для меня не может быть оправданием. Возможно, слова мои слишком высокопарны. Но суть моего отношения они передают точно.

Не поняла: убивать "мирных жителей" безнаказанно можно лишь людям в погонах ? Они значит воины, а те, кто в штатском ? Убийцы и террористы? Mishenka, A chto ti voobshe xochesh etim skazat'? Chto podderjivaesh terroristov -samoubiyc? Esli da,to tak i skaji. A to prichem tut "lyudi v pogonax" ? Kakaya svyaz'?

Da,no amerikanci eto ne Geydar Alievich...I potom slovo "Chush" zvuchalo slishkom oskorbitelno chtobi ya ostavil ego bezotvetnim.

Che- Davay tolko ne budem pro irakskuyu kompaniyu. "Zashitniki Iraka " seli v bolshuyu luju v etoy istorii. Kratchayshie sroki,minimum zhertv, eshe odin svobodniy narod. Eshe raz skaju-tvoi paralleli amoral'ni.

Saddam statue toppled in Baghdad Baghdad, April 9 US marines pulled down a towering statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad on Wednesday to loud cheering by Iraqis flashing victory signs and FLOWERS as the regime went out with a whimper in the heart of capital. After three weeks of war, US troops faced only sporadic gunfire as they moved up both banks of the Tigris river that divides the city to the applause of hundreds of civilians, some of them chanting, "GOOD, GOOD, BUSH!", while others indulged in widespread looting. Tanks had rumbled by late afternoon into the central Al-Fardus(Paradise) Square, where dozens of Iraqis quickly set about the massive bronze statue of the Iraqi president, a symbol of his 24-year iron-fisted rule. After blows with a sledgehammer only knocked flakes off the marble plinth, and a rope passed round the figure's neck was clearly inadequate, it took the marines and a tank recovery vehicle with a crane to secure a chain round the statue and back up to pull it over. Saddam, his right hand in a gesture of waving farewell, hung on in horizontal position for a few seconds until another tug finally brought him to the ground. Dozens of Iraqis jumped on the fallen figure shouting with JOY and venting their anger by breaking it into pieces. The head was later seen being pulled up the road. One marine - some of whose colleagues were criticised for hoisting the Stars and Stripes in Umm Qasr, early in the war - had put a US flag over Saddam's face as the cable was fastened on the statue. But he soon replaced it with an Iraqi flag as a scarf before that too was taken away. As they arrived in the square, the US troops kept the hatches of their tanks open and were relaxed and smiling, though other marines on foot took up precautionary positions on the pavement. Some Iraqi children plucked FLOWERS to give to the soldiers, who posed for photographs. "I never expected to see myself in Baghdad and I never expected such a WARM WELCOME," said Sergeant Grant Zaidz. "We did not face any resistance whatsoever to- We just strolled in," said the 20-year-old from the western US state of Oregon. In the lobby of the Palestine Hotel, where foreign journalists have been based since the start of the war, Corporal Matt Hanson and Private First Class Dustin Laderdorf were served thick Arabic coffee off a tray carried by an Iraqi waiter. "It feels good, we've finally hit the end of the road. Today there were only a few shots at us from snipers but nothing major," said Hanson, 21, from Minnesota. Crowds had GREETED the US column of seven vehicles carrying marines through the Hababiyah district about three kilometres from the heart of the capital, and tore up a giant portrait of President Saddam Hussein. To chants of "Good America" and a sea of hands flashing the "V" for victory sign, one resident marched up to the heavily armed troops with a symbolic peace offering in his hand. "I couldn't find FLOWERS so I brought you a palm leaf," explained the man wearing a traditional Arab galabiyah gown. US forces had also rolled early Wednesday through eastern Baghdad where people, mostly Shiite Muslims, were full of broad SMILES. One man intoned the name of "Saddam" and ran his finger across his throat in a mock gesture of execution. But two others appeared to support the embattled Iraqi president: "Saddam Hussein good," one said. With all organs of the state crumbling, including the police force, Baghdad also saw scenes of chaos, with mobs looting what they could get their hands on. In Saddam City, a teeming Shiite suburb northeast of the capital, residents broke into shops and homes to loot furniture, food, electrical equipment and carpets. The suburb's heavily armed population of well over a million had chased out the Fedayeen Saddam militiamen before the arrival of the US troops during the night. In the north of the capital, citizens rampaged through the interior and irrigation ministries, gutting the offices, reporters said. ------------ http://headlines.sify.com/2023news5.html Ya videlil nekotorie slova, bryunetka...Chtobi ti luchshe uvidela ix.

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