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ты так и не ответил. но чтобы до тебя дошло я спрошу уже по другому. каким образом армянская диаспора заработала на геноциде ту самую "1000 баксов"? где то есть социальные выплаты за геноцид?

да нет это твоя задача доказать свою правоты. рыться и находить. а так.... - я написал выше. пока что ни чего не изменилось. и так яланунц: http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D0%AF%D0...mp;stpar4=%2Fs1 http://www.google.com/search?hl=ru&q=%...1%D0%BA&lr= http://nova.rambler.ru/srch?query=%D0%AF%D...%B8%D1%81%D0%B5 http://ru.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A1f...b-top&rd=r1 http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=%D0%A...=&form=QBNO тоже самое с yalanunc, yalanuns так что, Суфий признавайся, что сказал неправду.

А расскажи как армяне на этом зарабатывают деньги? или снова "язык до Киева довел"?

о чем можно с тобой говорить если ты сейчас просто откровенно лжешь. причем совершенно не стесняешься этого. и еще смеешь армян в чем то обвинять. не стыдно на старости то лет? Ялан-унц, блин п.с. придумай себе хорошое оправдание лучше (типа спутал с турецким словом yalanyan), чем еще глубже топить себя враньем.

ну ка - ну ка... назови кокого-нибудь армянина с такой фамилией, врунишка? а то суть перейдет к тебе.. причем автоматически.

так уж случилось, что армяне не рисовали карт. а те кто рисовал армянами не были и Медз Хайк да еще и армянскими буквами написать не могли. может ты встречал карты с названием საქართველო( - Сакартвело - Грузия). к примеру? это внутреннее название всего то навсего.

тему почитайте. последние 3-4 страницы (примерно). там все написано кто решил. см. ответ № 1 Наиболее известными фактами геноцида в XX веке являются (хронологически): * Убийства и депортация армян в Османской империи (см.: Геноцид армян). * Истребление нацистской Германией во время Второй мировой войны евреев (см.: Холокост), цыган (см.: Геноцид цыган) и славян (см. Советские военнопленные во время Великой Отечественной войны). * Истребление в годы Второй мировой войны профашистским хорватским режимом Павелича сербов (см.: Усташи). * Истребление режимом Пол Пота и Иенг Сари в 1975—79 в Камбодже трёх миллионов камбоджийцев (оно часто называется геноцидом, хотя национальность жертв не имела определяющего значения, если не говорить об отдельных национальных меньшинствах). См.: Красные кхмеры. * Истребление иракскими войсками курдского населения северного Ирака — в частности, в процессе операции Анфаль 1987—1989. * Геноцид в Руанде 1994 г. — массовая резня в Руанде, в результате которой представители племени хуту истребили 800 тысяч членов племени тутси. каким образом: «Конвенция о предупреждении и наказании преступления геноцида» (Утверждена и предложена к подписанию и ратификации резолюцией Генеральной Ассамблеи ООН 260 A (III) от 9 декабря 1948 г.) Да.

стоит начать с того, что письмо идиотское и скорее всего перекопированная сюда просто мазня какого-то придурка на каком-то сайте. а вопросы абсурднейшие. нет ни какой Исламской республики ичкерия (даже в изгнании). а вот Иран есть. и выглядит смешно, когда несуществующее ставит вопросы ребром существующему. кстати вы сами как бы ответили на такой вопрос: 25. Иран (Азербайджан) ближайший сосед Кавказа и Чечни. Не является ли по Шариату вашей священной обязанностью перед Аллахом (с.т.) участие в Джихаде и поддержка воюющих за Ислам мусульман? с учетом того, что: Эти вопросы касаются так же руководителей всех исламских стран, кроме Афганистана. Пусть так же каждый мусульманин ответит на них для самого себя!

Не смотря на того что я инвалид войну,то надо будеть пойду еще раз и готов не только воевать но и грызти горло своего врага!!!!!! Смерт армянским окупантам!!!!! Уго, очень глупо выглядит, размещение подобного рода скриншотов.

Vladimir Zirinovki Armenian music marathon at Kremlin - Russia. 04.04.2009

Все правильно депортировали за предательство. а сколько там погибло от голода и другого это уже не проблемы депортирующей стороны думать надо было... Не было ПРЕСТУПЛЕНИЯ не было бы и НАКАЗАНИЯ! и смех и грех ей богу. ********** читать надо до конца: ...deportations and mass murders.

упс! кстати от курдов тоже для карапета привет) Parlamenta Kurdistanê Li Derveyî Welat Kurdistan Parliament in Exile 24 April 1996 To the members of the public The division of Kurdistan has affected both the Armenian and the Assyrian people. Colonialists have not only pursued the policy of extermination against the Kurds and forced them into migration but had also turned the peoples against one another. On 24 April 1915, the Ottoman Empire had taken the decision of massacre of the Armenian and Assyrian peoples. The ground for this massacre was prepared in advance. The Kurdish tribes involved in Hamidieh Cavalry took part in the Armenian massacre. Hundreds of thousands of Armenian and Assyrians were slaughtered and as many were forced to migrate during this massacre. The Turkish state is also following the same policy to- While aggravating the Alevi and Sunni people against each other, the government is also promoting the village guard system thus setting the Kurds against one another. Today is the 81st anniversary of the massacre of the both Armenian and Assyrian peoples. Today we wish to share the pain and suffering of our peoples and strongly condemn the Turkish state and any force which is collaborating with it. Zubeyir Aydar Chair of the Executive Committee

Привет из жаркой Германии. (для карапета) Germany Parliament Resolution June 15, 2005 [English Translation from German] German Bundestag Printed matter 15/5689 15th electoral period June 15, 2005 Motion by the parliamentary groups of SPD, CDU/CSU, BÜNDNIS 90/DIE GRÜNEN and FDP Commemorating the expulsion and massacre of the Armenians in 1915 – Germany must make her contribution to the reconciliation between Turks and Armenians. The Bundestag may resolve: The German Bundestag honors and commemorates the victims of violence, murder and expulsion among the Armenian people before and during the First World War. The Bundestag deplores the deeds of the Young Turkish government in the Ottoman Empire which have resulted in the almost total annihilation of the Armenians in Anatolia. It also deplores the inglorious role played by the German Reich which, in spite of a wealth of information on the organized expulsion and annihilation of Armenians, has made no attempt to intervene and stop these atrocities. The German Bundestag honors and commemorates the efforts made both by Turks and Germans who, working under difficult circumstances and conditions and against the resistance of their respective governments, have committed themselves in word and deed to saving Armenian women, men and children. It is particularly the memory and the work of Dr. Johannes Lepsius, who fought vigorously and effectively for the survival of the Armenian people, which is to be redeemed from oblivion and cherished and maintained to improve the relationship between the Armenian, the German and the Turkish people. The German Bundestag is painfully aware from its own national experience how hard it is for every people to face the dark sides of its past. But it also believes that facing one’s own history fairly and squarely is necessary and constitutes an important basis for reconciliation. This is true, in particular, within the European culture of remembrance to which belongs the open discussion of the dark sides of each national history. Against this Background, the German Bundestag deplores the fact that a full discussion of these events of the past in the Ottoman Empire is still not possible today in Turkey and that scientists and writers who wish to deal with this aspect of Turkish history are being prosecuted and exposed to public defamation. However, the German Bundestag also sees positive signs that Turkey, to an ever-increasing degree, approaches this subject within the above European culture of remembering. Examples include: - The Great Turkish Assembly has, for the first time, invited Turkish people of Armenian descent to discussions involving the crimes committed against the Armenians and the Turkish-Armenian relationship - A Turkish-Armenian women’s dialog was held in Vienna - Initial contacts between Turkish and Armenian historians resulted in a first exchange of documents - Minister President Erdogan inaugurated Turkey’s first Armenian museum in Istanbul with the Armenian patriarch Mesrab and publicly suggested the establishment of a bilateral Turkish-Armenian panel of historians. However, in this context, the German Bundestag perceives with great concern that the Armenian Conference of internationally renowned Turkish scientists, which was to be held in Istanbul from 25-27 May 2005, has been prevented by the Turkish Minister of Justice and that the positions taken by these scientists, which diverged from the government’s opinion, were defamed as “a stab in the back of the Turkish nation”. The proposal by Minister President Erdogan to set up a joint Turkish-Armenian commission of historians can only succeed if it is implemented on the basis of a free and public scientific discourse. Germany, which has also made its contribution to the crimes against the Armenian people falling into oblivion, is now obliged to face her own responsibility. This responsibility involves supporting Turks and Armenians in seeking reconciliation and mutual understanding over the trenches of the past. Both major churches in Germany, in particular, have for many years advocated the integration of the Armenians from Turkey. The Armenian communities which have settled here offer the opportunity of reconciliation and remembrance. Particularly in view of the large number of Turkish Muslims living in Germany, it is an important task to bring to mind the past and so to make the first steps toward reconciliation. But dealing with these historical events also has an immediate significance for the present. Today, the normalization of the relations between the Republic of Turkey and the Republic of Armenia is of paramount interest and importance for the future of the entire region. What is urgently needed is to establish trust-forming measures on both sides as defined in the OSCE principles. Turkey opening the borders to Armenia could, for instance, help to relieve Armenia’s isolation and promote the taking up of diplomatic relations. Due to its historic role in the Turkish-Armenian relations, Germany must assume a special responsibility as part of its neighborhood initiative of the EU. The aim must be to help normalize and improve the situation between Armenia and Turkey and so to help stabilize the Caucasus region. One important contribution toward remembrance can be made by the German federal states. The duty of the information and education policy involves actions for facing the expulsion and annihilation of the Armenians as part of the whole history of ethnic conflicts in the 20th century, also in Germany. The German Bundestag requests the Federal Government - to help the Turks and Armenians to arrive at a settlement by remembering, reconciliation and forgiving historical guilt - to ensure that Parliament, Government and society in Turkey deal without reservation with their role in relation to the Armenian people in the past and in the present - to advocate the establishment of a commission of historians including Turkish, Armenian and international experts - to ensure that not only the archives of the Ottoman Empire on this issue are made accessible to the general public, but also the copies of the German Foreign Office archives given by Germany to Turkey - to insist on the actual organization of the conference scheduled in Istanbul but postponed under governmental pressure - to press for freedom of opinion in Turkey, in particular with respect to the fate of the Armenians - to help Turkey and Armenia to normalize their interstate relationships. Berlin, June 15, 2005 Franz Müntefering and parliamentary group Dr. Angela Merkel, Michael Glos and parliamentary group Katrin Göring-Eckardt, Krista Sager and parliamentary group Dr. Wolfgang Gerhard and parliamentary group Reasons for the motion Ninety years ago, on April 24, 1915, the Young Turkish movement controlling the Ottoman Empire ordered the Armenian cultural and political elite in Istanbul to be arrested, deported inland and for the most part murdered. This day has become the day of remembrance for Armenians throughout the world for the expulsion and massacre of the Armenian subjects of the Ottoman Empire which took place as early as the end of the 19th century and intensified during the First World War. When the Ottoman Empire joined the war, the Armenian soldiers drafted into the Ottoman army were grouped into work battalions and most were murdered. Beginning in the spring of 1915, women, children and old people were sent on death marches through the Syrian desert. Those who had not died or been murdered on the way met this fate at the latest when they reached the inhuman camps in the desert near Deir ez Zôr. Massacres were also committed by units specially set up for this purpose. Resistance by high-ranking Turkish officials against this course of action, as well as criticism from the Ottoman parliament, was brutally suppressed by the Young Turkish regime. Many areas from which Christian Armenians had been expelled were later settled with Kurds and Muslin refugees from the Balkan wars. Members of other ethnic Christian groups, in particular Arameic/Assyrian and Chaldean Christians, but also certain Muslim minorities, were also affected by deportations and massacres. According to independent estimates, more than 1 million Armenians fell victim to the deportations and mass murders. Many independent historians, parliaments and international organizations describe the expulsion and annihilation of the Armenians as genocide. Until this day and contrary to the facts, the Turkish Republic as the legal successor of the Ottoman Empire denies that these atrocities had been well planned and organized and/or that the mass deaths during the resettlement treks and the massacres had been desired by the Ottoman government. The admitted severity of the actions against the Armenians has always been justified by the fact that many Armenians had fought on Russia’s side against Turkey both in 1878 and in 1914/1915 and that there had supposedly been the danger that these Armenians would also have fallen into the back of the Ottoman Empire during WW I. Other Turkish defenses invoked the acts of violence committed by Armenians against Turks which occurred during the armed resistance to the Turkish resettlement measures. The terrorist attacks by Armenians against Turks perpetrated right into the eighties of the twentieth century are also used as justification for the Turkish position. In all, the true extent of the massacres and deportations is still belittled and largely .ed in Turkey to- This Turkish attitude stands in opposition to the idea of reconciliation which guides the common values of the European Union. Even today, historians in Turkey are not free in coming to terms with the history of deportations and murder of Armenians and, in spite of some relaxation in the previous criminal liability, still find themselves under great pressure. The German Empire as the major military ally of the Ottoman Empire was also deeply involved in these events. Both the political and the military leadership of the German Empire had been aware of the persecution and murder of the Armenians right from the beginning. The files of the German Foreign Office resting on reports by the German embassy and consulates in the Ottoman Empire document the planned and organized execution of the massacres and deportations. In spite of urgent requests by many German personalities in science, politics and the churches, among these politicians like Philipp Scheidemann, Karl Liebknecht or Matthias Erzberger, and eminent persons of the protestant and catholic churches such as Adolf von Harnack and Lorenz Werthmann, the German Reich government failed to exert pressure on its Ottoman ally. When the protestant theologian Dr. Johannes Lepsius presented the outcome of his research in Istanbul to the German Reichstag on October 5, 1915, the whole of the subject of the Armenians was censored by the German Reich government. In 1916, the German military censorship banned and confiscated Johannes Lepsius’ “Report on the Situation of the Armenian People in Turkey”. The copies of this documentation which Lepsius had sent directly to the delegates of the German Reichstag were intercepted by the authorities and not handed to the delegates until after the war in 1919. This almost forgotten policy of repression by the German Reich demonstrates that this chapter of history still waits to be dealt with in a satisfactory manner here in Germany. Deutscher Bundestag Drucksache 15/5689 15. Wahlperiode 15. 06. 2005 у немцев как видишь хватает смелости даже часть вины возложить на себя.

да нет воз катится по планете вполне успешно. последняя остановка была на Гавайях))) http://news.bakililar.az/news_shtat_gavayi...znal_22901.html

и бонусом Канада;) Canada Senate Resolution June 13, 2002 Debates of the Senate (Hansard) 1st Session, 37th Parliament, Volume 139, Issue 124 Thursday, June 13, 2002 That this House calls upon the Government of Canada: (a) to recognize the genocide of the Armenians and to condemn any attempt to deny or distort a historical truth as being anything less than genocide, a crime against humanity, and (b) to designate April 24th of every year hereafter throughout Canada as a day of remembrance of the 1.5 million Armenians who fell victim to the first genocide of the twentieth century. Canada House of Commons Resolution April 21, 2004 "That this House acknowledge the Armenian genocide of 1915 and condemn this act as a crime against humanity." Private Members' Business Pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), seconded by Mr. Assadourian (Brampton Centre), Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast) and Ms. McDonough (Halifax), — That this House acknowledge the Armenian genocide of 1915 and condemn this act as a crime against humanity. (Private Members' Business M-380) The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division: YEAS: 153, NAYS: 68

ох Херберт-Хербер да ты можешь хоть весь текст выделить красным цветом. можешь хоть еще тысячу раз его запостить. все ровно твои глаза ни когда не смогут прочесть основной сути: "Believes that the tragic events in 1915-1917 involving the Armenians living in the territory of the Ottoman Empire constitute genocide within the meaning of the convention on the prevention and the punishment of the crime of genocide adopted by the UN General Assembly on 9 December 1948." есть еще по мимо этой основной резолюции: 2000 года "...Calls, therefore, on the Turkish Government and the Turkish Grand National Assembly to give fresh support to the Armenian minority, as an important part of Turkish society, in particular by public recognition of the genocide which that minority suffered before the establishment of the modern state of Turkey;..." 2002 года "reiterates in this respect the position in its resolution of 18 June 1987 recognising the genocide upon Armenians in 1915 and calls upon Turkey to create a basis for reconciliation;" "The recognition of the Armenian genocide by the European Parliament and by several Member States and the fact that the Turkish regime after the First World War had several of those responsible for the genocide severely punished ought to provide a basis for the EU to present constructive proposals to Turkey on the handling of the matter, e.g. by setting up a multicultural international committee of historians on the 1915 Armenian genocide." и 2005 "5. Calls on Turkey to recognise the Armenian genocide; considers this recognition to be a prerequisite for accession to the European Union;" как видишь признали. все остальное - не в тему.

The Historical Recognition of 1987 Описание

Armenian Genocide Museum of America http://www.armeniangenocidemuseum.org/ Located in Washington, DC, the Armenian Genocide Museum of America (AGMA) will be the premier institution in the United States dedicated to educating American and international audiences about the Armenian Genocide and its continuing consequences. Visitors to the Museum will come to understand the Armenian Genocide as the prototype for modern crimes against humanity, including the Holocaust, Cambodia, Rwanda, and Darfur. The Museum is strategically located two blocks from the White House, walking distance from the Smithsonian Institution, and down the street from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum — to ensure that Armenian-American issues and concerns, past and present, are never again ignored. This place of gathering — this center for Americans and Armenians alike — will be a World-Class Museum among World-Class Institutions committed to bringing justice to the memory of the victims of the 20th century's first genocide. AGMA aspires to do so by also highlighting the historic identity of the Armenian people, their culture and creativity, their art and artistry, and their perseverance in the face of adversity. Visitors will learn about the ultimate failure of the international community to hold the perpetrators accountable for their crimes and hence why a living monument to the quest for justice is vitally necessary, and why the story of the Armenians and all other peoples who have suffered similar fates must be told. Powerful presentations are instrumental for prompting action and discussion. AGMA interactive exhibits and educational programs will incorporate the latest scholarship with state-of-the-art technology. An online version will offer much the same resonant content to visitors anywhere in the world. Exhibits will focus on the Armenian Genocide to reinforce the universal message of our common humanity and collective responsibility. The Armenian Genocide Museum of America will offer a place for reflection, where memories and emotions can be confronted in an environment filled with hope, inspiration and a commitment to eradicating the scourge of genocide and stopping other atrocities against humankind. AGMA is slated for opening before 2011. The historically-designated former National Bank of Washington building in which AGMA will be housed is located at the intersection of 14th and G Streets, NW, Washington, DC 20005. The current plans for the facility call for a 50,000 square foot complex with room to expand in the future.

Дмитрий Медведев, БАКУ, Аллея Шехидов. Вечный огонь жертвам событий января 1990 года и погибшим в Карабахе азербайджанским войнам. а это к чему есть где то инфа что Медведев возложил венок именно на "Вечный огонь жертвам событий января 1990 года"? я таких фото могу кучу с лихом навалить разных высокопоставленных лиц: http://ura.ru/content/svrd/21-10-2008/news/45920.html глава МИД Грузии там же:

там кстати спасибо сказать не забудб))) http://anc.org.au/news.php?extend.140

Суфий, ты себя кем возомнил?)))) ты ничегошеньки не можешь решать. все делается вопреки твоим желаниям. можешь хоть до полусмерти задавать глупые вопросы, ни на что это не повлияет. так время только тратишь и нервы теряешь. когда случайно узнаешь какие то шокирующие для себя подробности (например про пшеницу)))) а всех кого армяне наказали за их злодеяния умерли той смертью которую заслужили.. некоторые правда заслужили большего. Талаат вообще легко отделался просто пулей в голову. можно сказать даже боли не почувствовал. ты это называешь "бить в спину"?)) что же, думаю армяне учтут твои пожелания. и следующего, если такой не дай бог появится, Талаата, будут вызывать исключительно на дуэль благородно на шпагах))

читай внимательнее. про "вас" ни чего не было сказано в том посте.

ты переиначиваешь.. а проще говоря лжешь в который раз. Турция не приглашает к международному изучению своих архивов. Турция предлагает Армении.. и лишь Армении отказаться от политики продвижения признания геноцида, а вместо этого собраться и приехать в Турцию где турецкие историки покажут им архивные документы о том где в 1915 году был издан указ о посадке виноградников. и на основе этих документов решать уже с нуля был геноцид или нет. факт доказан. не оспорим. многими государствами признан. и нет смысла создавать какие то комиссии.. тем самым отказываться от своей правоты. если туркам есть что сказать и показать в свое оправдание. пусть делают это.

из=за интересов как раз таки не признают. не так давно совсем на обвинение со стороны Турции Израиля в геноциде палестинцев.. был дан ответ: "лучше уж помалкивайте.. чья бы корова мычала." но повторюсь процесс идет: вот из последнего в марте: Законодательный совет парламента Южной Австралии принял резолюцию, согласно которой Геноцид армян является преступлением, совершенным против человечества. Резолюция призывает коалиционное правительство Австралии официально признать события 1915 года в Османской империи Геноцидом.

кучка фашистов не могула физически убить столько человек. испонитель так же виновен. весь народ не обвиняется. за всеь народ, от имени народа кстати один канцлер стоял на коленях перед евреями. воевали с турками на полях сражений.. кроме букваря что-нибудь еще по изучай. а тех кто сам прятался за чужие спины и только отдавал приказы убивали как шакалов... это значит что армяне своих обидчиков из под земли достанут и накажут. на что у вас духу ни когда не хватит... и это вам сложно признать. по этому и обвиняете армян.