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Quote// Аль-Амаль ибн-Хамас ТАРЗАН-ЗАДЕ // Oy izvinite prosto mne interesno, Gospodin TARZANOVICH otkuda? sluchayno ego mat' ne zvali JANE? Ladno, shutka v storonu, no kak ne stranno videt' u vas Xaev "referans" Iranets. Kak u nas govoryat: - "Shiracinin shahidi bozaci" Tochno perevod ne poluchaetsya poetomu ya adaptiruyu: - "U sapozhnika svidetel konyux" Udachi

Alisa, izvinite no ya sovsem zaputalsya zdes'. Chtoby vyasnit', razreshite pisat' kakie proseduri u nas: Dopustim zhenix Turok, nevesta grazhdanka Azerbayjana i svadba byla v Azerbayjane: - Perevod pasporta muzha i pasport (original) nevesti nuzhnie. - Posle Svadby poluchino svidetelstvo braka. - "ESLI ONI XOTYAT" chtoby ixniy brak byl zaregistirovan v Turetskom ZAKSe takzhe; pasport (original) muzha, perevod pasporta nevesti, fotografi i.td. nuzhnie i oni poydut v posoltsvo Turtsii (ne pozhe mesyats posle svadby). - Tam muzh pishet zayavleniya i posoltstvo otpravlyayet v Turetskiy ZAKS (v rodnom gorode muzha). - Ego ZAKS dobavit informatsiyu chto etot paren seychas zhenatiy na etu devushku i poshlet kopiyu ego "Updated" registratsii v pososltstvo. - "ESLI ONI XOTYAT" chtoby zhena poluchila Turetskoe grazhdanstvo, v pososltsve zhena pishet zayavleniya na Turetskom ("Ya vyshla zamuzh za Turka i xochu poluchit grazhdanstva Turtsii i.td. i.td."). - V kontse ona poluchayet "TOL'KO" grazhdanstvo. A dlya togo chtoby poluchila pasport, eshe neskol'ko proseduri budut. - Es'li svadba byla v Turtsii, proseduri poxozhie. Tol'ko vmesto Turetskoe, v Azerbayjanskoe posolstvo nado idti. Ya s zhenoy zdelali vse chto ya napisal zdes' i posle etogo ona poluchila grazhdanstvo. A pasport: mi esho ne nashli vremya zanimatsya s etom. A seychas, mne zvuchit kak chuda chto kogda vy voobshe "Nafig" ne xoteli eto grazhdanstvo i nikomu nichego ne zayavili, no kak nibud vse-vse-vse obyazatelnie proseduri zapolnilis' sam-soboy, i pochimu-to Zhandarmerii (!) prosit' chtoby vy zabrali Turetskiy pasport (voobshem-to eto Zhandarmeriam eto ne kasaetsya) Es'li ya opyat nipravilno ponyal vashu situatsiyu, proshu izvinitsya. Shastlivo

Alisa, ya ne znal i dazhe ne ozhidal chto vy Litovka. Sorry for the mix-up. No ya by xotel napomnit' to chto vy napisali: 1) "....я не беру нафига оно нужно то...." - Xotete ili ne xotete poluchit' lyuboe grazhdanstvo, eto vasho delo. No ne nado unizhat' / oskarбиипt'. 2) "....А турецкое мне силой дают потому как замужем я за турком...." - Kogda moya zhena vyshla za menya, ona sobirala vse dokumenti i napisala zayavlenie v posolstve chto ona xochet poluchit nasho grazhdanstvo. Inache u nas nekomu v gorlu grazhdanstvo ne zasunut es'li on/ona ne xochet. Udachi

Uvazhaemiy Javab, V drugix forumax kakie gadosti pishut Greki, Armyane, Irantsi i.td., prosto ne veryatno. Poetomu to-chto ona napisala, mne ne obidno. Mne prosto zhal videt' kogda chelovek zabyvayet kem on/ona byl. Naprimer ona govorit "No Turetskoye tozhe ne vyxod..." Vidno chto yey nuzhno tol'ko "vyxod" to est: lyubim sposobam bezhat' otsyuda. Es'li Turetskoye grazhdanstvo ne pomozhet, puskay Grecheskoye. Ya ni odnom forume ne videl ne odnogo Greka kotoriy zashishal Azerbaijana (Puskay Trurtsiyu v storonu) protiv Armenii ili Irana. Greki mechtayut chtob nashu i vashu zemlyu podelili Gretsiya, Armeniya i Iran tak zhe kak eto bylo bolshe tisyacha let nazad. No nichego, ya zdes' videl mnogo Azerbaijantsi kotoriy zhivut v Kanade, v Amerike i.td. no lyubyat svoyu rodinu i ne zabyvayut. Nowruz Bayraminiz Mubarek

mojet Alise za darom dayut. no v Turtsii trudno budet tebe grajdanstvo poluchit. ya zdes uje 7-let tak chto poka ne poluchil. ne prinimayut i vsyo tut. net zdes ne smotryat kto ti po natsii afrikanets bistree poluchit chem ti. ya dumayu ti ponyal o chyom ya. Sezar, Vy pereuvelichivayete govorya "Afrikantsam poluchit' legche chem Azerbaydzhantsam". Vy dumaete chto my imeem kakie to pretenzi k vam a ne k Afrikantsam??? Vse dolzhen byt' po zakonu. Moya zhena Bakinka i posle togo kak my pazhenilis', cherez paru nedeli ona poluchila grazhdanstvo. Es'li vy ne mozhete (ili ne xochete) zhenit'sya na Turchanku togda mozhet byt' slozhneye, ne znayu... Ya dumayu chto poluchit Azerbaydzhanskoye grazhdanstvo tozhe ne legche. Dazhe Azerbaydhanskaya visa slozhneye i dorozhe chem Turetskaya. Alisa, Nadeyus' vam uyutno v Gretsii (Tak napisna na vashem profile). Kazhetsya Grecheskami propagandami uzhe pudreli vashi mozgi. Ya kak grazhdanin Turtsii byl v Germanii, Avstrii i Anglii. Ne bez viz kanechno, no dali zhe. A v Irane voobshem to nikogda ne byl i ne sobirayus'. Nashet togo chto "vam SILOY dayut grazhdanstvo"... mne ochen interesno, es'li eto pravilno vy dolzheni byt' kak Einstein (somnivayus'), Beethoven (ne znayu) ili kak Sergey Bubka (no way..) Udachi, Kubilay

Haiko, Nu ladno, dopustim kupili 15000km2 zemlyu, a chto budite delat', zagruzit' na gruzavik i otpravit' v Armeniyu? A ne skazhut togda, kak v anekdote: "Za x..ya do x..ya na x..ya stol'ko zemlya, raz x..ya ..." i.td? Znachit, kto bi ne kupil, zemlya ostayotsya na meste. V Stambule zhivut gde-to 40,000 Armyane. U nix tozhe est' nidvizhimosti. Xochesh (i li smozhesh) poprobuy i otrezh kak tort A nu podazhdiii... ya ponyal, vi xotete sobirat zemlyu chtobi sozdavat' eshe odin Karabagh v Turtsii i potom soedinit'sya, da Hayko tebe skol'ko let? 5? 6? Tebe odin umniy slov skazhu no tol'ko ne obizhaysya, nado bilo s etimi dengami kormit' svoy narod a to skoro budet Armyanskaya Diaspora v samoy Armenii.

SKS, Es'li ti ne "xochesh'" ponimat', ya nechego ne mogu delat' Es'li ti prosto ne "mozhesh'" ponimat', ya popitayus' obyasnit': - Turtsiya ne prodalas'. Eto nazivayetsya "sotrudnichestvo". Razve Armenia s Rossii delaet chto-to drugoy? - Nashet dengi: Turtsiya poteryala pochti 60 milyard dollarov proshliy raz i seychas' ne xochet povtorit' etu oshibku. Pochemu nam poteryat mnogo chego radi soyuznika kogda drugie soyuzniki kak Germania i Fransa spokoyna otkazalis'? Konechno trebuyem kompensatsiyu. - Religia eto sovsem drugoe delo. Razve Evropeytsi i Amerikantsi oni vse ne bili Xristiyanami kogda drug-druga ubili vo vremya 1-y i 2-y Mirovoy Voyni? Razve nashi Muselmanskie bratya Arabi ne bili na storone Anglii i voyavalis' s Turkami? Proshu ne pudret' mozgi.

Rebyata, uspakoytes', gde pozhar? 1) Vam nekto ne starshiy brat ili gaynata 2) Voobshe to vi ne nashi, no mi (Narod Turtsii) VASHI. Naprimer, predki moey materi Azerbaycantsi i predki moego otsa Turkmeni. 3) Turki, tak zhe kak i Azerbaycantsi, mnogonatsionalniy narod. Esli vse nashi zemlyaki nam dorogie (Turki, Lazi, Kurdi, Cherkesi i.td.), vse Azerbaycantsi (Tyurkskie, Talishi, Lezghini i.td.) tozhe nam dorogie. Bratsvo ne resultat DNK. Obshe kultur, historia, i.td. mnogo vhodit v eto. 4) Raznitsa "Gardash/Arkadash" vazhno? Pust budet stol'ko raznitsa. Vi naverno slishite tol'ko Stambulskiy Turetskiy, no bolshinstva v Turtsii govorit pachti kak i vi. Stambulets ne znaet chto takoy "Gadani Alam" ili "Zibil" no ya znayu, ya rodilsya v Kayseri, v sredni Anatolii. Uchennie govoryat Indeyskiy, Armyanskiy i Nemetskiy iz semey Indo-Germanskix yazikov xotya oni drug-druga ne figa ne ponimayut. Dazhe Amerikantsi i Anglichane ponimayut slova: "Not bad" po drugomu. 5) Tebrik edirem, yaxshi birlik olmushsunuz, solidarnost' bomba kimi Ye'gin ki sizin munakishelerinizi oxuyanda ermeniler gotleriyle gulubler vaziyetimize. Men Turkiye vetendeshi kimi sagima soluma baxiram, konshularin hami gizh... tekche Azerbaycan bize dostdu, zehmet olmasa siz de bir baxin kim dostdu kim dushman. Onda guman edirem ki "Turkey Sucks" diyen gagash peshman olar. Helelik, Kubilay

Ya ne smotrel peredachu, no tol'ko chto prochital copy-paste kotoriy Stracker Muallim vystavil. Ye'gin ki Sokolov (Sakkalini .....m) kimden se (!) hormet goturub ki be'le danishsin. Odnako, on piderast.

SKS: Interesnaya logika, u vas. "Neskol'kix Turkov ubili v Azerbayjane, znachit net bratskogo otnosheniya mezhdu nimi" vi eto imeli vidu? Kak grazhdanin Turtsii ya vam skazhu, uzhe 5-let ya zhivu/rabotayu v Baku i pozhenilsya zdes'. U menya zdes' druzya - Bakintsi kotorie mne kak rodnoy brat. Ya vse vremye chuvstvoval sebya v polnoy bezopasnosti. Dazhe v Stambule namnogo opasneye chem zdes'. Zrya erundu napishite, s takim sposobam ne smozhete tresnut' druzhbu mezhdu nami. Kubilay

Noviy Chelovek: 1) Nado bila smotrit chego ti (to est, oni: turisti) snimish, dazhe es'li ti 100% turist. 2) V podobnom sluchae Rossiskaya Spetssluzhba tozhe ne ugashala bi konfetkami 3) 13 raza voyna, poslednaya 100 let nazad: Da eto fakt, no chto teper delat'? 50 let nazad Nemtsi, Anglichane, Italyantsi, Frantsuzi ubili drug-druga a teper soyuzniki. 4) Kogda u nas samiy bolshoy pribil iz turizma, kak ti dumaesh, "sistematichno" deistvovat protiv turistov i prichinit vred rodine, kto pozvolil bi etogo? 5) Rossiya pomogla PKK / Abdulla Odzhalan mnogo let i on ubil 30,000 chelovek v techenie 10 let, (Ya pomnyu; dva neftyaniki, moi druzya, rabotali v Kompanii Mobil, PKK ubil ix na trasse. Oni dazhe ni soldatami bili) A teper u vas poxozhaya situatsiya i vi plachite. Mne zhal pogibshix, ne vazhna kakaya nasyonalnost'. No est pogovorka: "You reap the harvest you have sown" 6) Ne obizhaysya no ti nemnoshko paranoyak. Udachi, P.S. : Zabil skazat': Ya grazhdanin Turtsii, napishi esli chto-to xochesh obsuzhdat' pro Turtsii, ya chasto bivayu v etom forume (Hotya malo pishu).

TurkaXext: Znachit, ti 50% Kitayets + 25% Ukraynets + 25% Evrey, chlen "Kitayskoy Diaspori v Erevane" i dumaesh' chto Azerbaidjan dolzhen podarit' vse krome Baku k sosedam? (Umnitsa: Pomoemu on ne pil, on chto-to xudzhe prinimal, naprimer Domestos...) Vmesto togo chto mozgi ...bat pro Kavkaza, snachala tvoe Kitayskoe Praviteltsvo dolzhno perekratit' ispitanie yadernix bomb v Vostochnom Turkistane i vernut' zemlyu k Uyguram.

Bingool, Ya ne ponyal, kogda Turki voevali na storone faschistov?... Povtoryayu: My ne uchastvovali v vtoroy mirovoy voyne. Ya opyat ne yasno? Dazhe prezidenti Ameriki, CCCP i Anglii poprosili nashego prezidenta (Ismet Inonu) chtoby Turtsia tozhe obyavila voynu protiv Germanii no on otkazalsya. Mozhet vy imeli vidu v Pervoy mirovoy voyne? No togda zhe faschism v Germanii eshe ne bylo i togda molodoy Gitler sluzhil kak obychnom serzhantom v armii a potom stal pridurkom. Voobshem, kak-to u nas s vami sluchilos' "Communication Failure". Es'li eto iz-za moego ploxogo ponimanie Russkogo yazyka togda "excuse moi" ;)

Bingool, Tol'ko v "WW-I" mi oshibalis' i byli soyuznikami s Nemtsami, a vy otkuda vzyali chto v vtoroy mirovoy voyne tozhe..?... My stali neytralnami. A naschet grazhdanstvo, ya eto skazal potomu chto kazhdiy chelovek otvechaet vo pervyx za svoyu stranu. Xotya, ya blizhe k Azerbaijanu chem bolshensto Turki iz Turtsii (Otets moey materi byl iz Azerbaijana, ya uzh 5 let zhivu v Baku i moya zhena Bakinka). Poka Kubik

Bingool, Znachit ti govorish chto Armiyane ne uchastvovali v Evreiskom genotside? Dro (Drastamat Kanayan), "812th Armenian Batallion" i.td. tebe nichego ne napominayut.?.. Skazhi "Heil Fuhrer Dro, Hayastan Ueber Alles..." i t.d. ;) Quote: ------------------------------------------------------------ Это вам, азербайджанцам хорошо известно. ------------------------------------------------------------ Mezhdu prochim, ya ne grazhdanin Azerbaijana, Ya Turok. Udachi

Bingool, ty srovnyvaesh Nemtsi s Osmanskimi? Po tvoemu Evrei v Germanii sotrudnicheli s vragami i stali ubit' Nemtsi? Kak ty smozhesh dazhe govorit o Evreiskom Genotside kogda sami Armiyane pomogli Natsistam unichtozhat Evreev? http://www.tetedeturc.com/Armenien/Nazi-armen.htm Yet another historical fact: a fact that for years has been deliberately forgotten, concealed, and wiped from memory - the fact of Armenian-Nazi collaboration. A magazine called Mitteilungsblatt der Deutsch-Armenischen Gesselschaft is the clearest and most definite proof of this collaboration. The magazine was first published in Berlin in 1938 during Nazi rule of Germany and continued publication until the end of 1944. Even the name of the magazine, which implies a declaration of Armenian-Nazi cooperation, is attention-getting. This magazine, every issue of which proves the collaboration, is historically important as documentary evidence. It is a heap of writing that should be an admonition to world opinion and to all mankind. To give specific examples of actions; In May 1935 the Armenians of Bucharest attacked the Jews of that city, while the Greeks of Salonika attacked the Jews in the August of the same year. During World War II, Armenian volunteers, under the wings of Hitler's Germany, were used in rounding up Jews and other ''undesirables'' destined for the Nazi concentration camps. The Armenians also published a German-language magazine, with fascist and anti-Semitic tendencies, supporting Nazi doctrines directed to the extermination of 'inferior' races [1]. This is confirmed by Armenophil Christopher J. Walker, who admits that the Armenians collaborated with the Nazis. According to him, members of the Dashnak Party, then living in the occupied areas, including a number of prominent persons, entertained pro-Axis sympathies. A report in an American magazine went so far as to claim that the Nazis had picked on the Dashnaktsutiun to do fifth- column work, promising the party an autonomous state for its cooperation. Walker goes on to claim that relations between the Nazis and the Dashnaks living in the occupied areas were close and active. On 30 December 1941 an Armenian battalion was formed by a decision of the Army Command (Wehrmacht), known as the 'Armenian 812th Battalion'. It was commanded by Dro, and was made up of a small number of committed recruits, and a larger number of Armenians. Early on, the total number of recruits was 8,000; this number later grew to 30,000. The 812th Battalion was operational in Crimea and the North Caucasus.(These are the dates and numbers given by Walker). A year later, on 15 December 1942, an Armenian National Council was granted official recognition by Alfred Rosenberg, the German Minister of the occupied areas. The Council's president was Professor Ardashes Abeghian, its vice-president Abraham Giulkhandanian, and it numbered among its members Nzhdeh and Vahan P.zian. From that date until the end of 1944 it published a weekly journal, Armenien, edited by Viken Shant (the son of Levon), who also broadcast on Radio Berlin. The whole idea was to prove to the Germans that the Armenians were 'Aryans'. With the aid of Dr. Paul Rohrbach they seemed to have achieved this as the Nazis did not persecute the Armenians in the occupied lands [2]. "Members of the Dashnak party living in the occupied areas, including a number of names famous from the period of the republic, adopted a pro-Nazi stance." [2] "Wholly opportunistic the Armenians have been variously pro-Nazi, pro-Russia, pro-Soviet Armenia, pro-Arab, pro-Jewish, as well as anti-Jewish, anti-Zionist, anti-Communist, and anti-Soviet - whichever was expedient."

Professor Xachikyan Pishet: ------------------------------------- Скажут верните Западную Армению вернут. Не подыхать им ведь? А не вернут добравольно, сами вернем. ------------------------------------- Eto samiy luchshiy anekdot ya slishal. Poprobuy sam vernut', chego zhdesh?

Granitsa na Bosfore, ha! Oy Pederos, pritormozi a to vdrug stanesh sosedami s Finlandii A moy dom na aziyskoy storone Bosfora, ne tarapites' pozhaluysta mne nado sobirat' veshi i bezhat' Dorogie Azerbaijantsi, ne nado obratit' im vnimanie. Puskayte mechtayut. S uvazheniem, Kubilay